[robocup-humanoid] Rule Discussion for 2012

Johannes Kulick kulick at hildensia.de
Thu Nov 24 13:32:04 EST 2011


In the German indoor football rules, as played during the 90s, the
goalkeeper was not allowed to throw the ball over the middle line. This was
an official DFB (the German football association) rule, but never made it
into a FIFA rulebook.

Best regards,
Johannes
Am 24.11.2011 19:15 schrieb "Dorian Scholz" <scholz at sim.tu-darmstadt.de>:

> On 11/23/2011 05:42 PM, Alejandro Malo Tamayo wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> On Nov 15, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Daniel Seifert wrote:
>>
>>  Hi, Dorian,
>>>
>>> my response to some select parts of your email is below.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 18:45, Dorian Scholz<scholz at sim.tu-**
>>> darmstadt.de <scholz at sim.tu-darmstadt.de>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> * Goal keeper can not score a goal directly from a throw-in. Ball must
>>>>> first
>>>>>   touch at least one other player.
>>>>>
>>>> A penalty should be decided upon, if the goal keeper actually throws the
>>>> ball directly into the other teams goal.
>>>> We think handling it in a similar way as if the ball had rolled out of
>>>> the
>>>> field over the goal line would be appropriate.
>>>> So the ball would be placed on the half way line, but on which side has
>>>> to
>>>> be decided by the referee.
>>>>
>>> Regarding the rules of the game I believe that they should agree with
>>  FIFA's. The throw in is rule 15,
>> its states that "A goal cannot be scored directly from a throw-in."
>> A goal kick is awarded if the ball enters the goal of the opponent, if it
>> enters its own goal a corner kick is awarded.
>>
> This seems to be a slight misunderstanding. The original formulation
> "throw-in" was not completely correct.
> We are not talking about the goalie doing a "throw-in" after the ball has
> been out of bounds, but rather the goalie picking the ball up and throwing
> it from inside it's own penalty area.
> I could not find any FIFA rule that gives any specifics about this
> situation, as this is neither a "throw-in" nor a "goal-kick".
> I would think it is closer to a "goalkeeper punt" ("Abschlag" in German),
> but this is also not specified in the FIFA rules.
> Also I looked at the Futsal rules, which seems to be the official FIFA
> indoor soccer, but found nothing to clarify this issue.
>
> So, as there are no FIFA rules about this, I think we should decide upon
> one specifically for RoboCup...
>
> Cheers
> Dorian
>
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